women in leadership

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(Originally published at Onward Christian Soldier)

Paul and I were talking last night about women’s roles in spiritual leadership. He gave the example of a Bible study which he attends, which is more of a small group discussion rather than a teaching/learning environment. Apparently, one of the guys who attends this study feels very uncomfortable with women playing role of facilitator – encouraging the group to stay on topic and not go off onto tangents. While I am not an advocate of women being in a teaching role over men, I don’t think this is a situation where women should be “seen and not heard”.

It made me think, though, what is a woman’s role in the Church?

1 Timothy 2:11-12
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

Titus 2:3-5
Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. Then they can train the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

I know this is a hotly debated topic and so therefore I doubt there is a simple, easy answer. However, based on these two passages it seems to me that a woman’s role is over other women. She should learn from men, and pass that knowledge on to other women. I believe this applies to a teaching environment. There are other areas of spirituality that are different; i.e. a discussion. I don’t believe that a facilitator of a discussion is the same as being over men.

I do have a problem with women pastors. Women are instructed to be submissive to men, and if a woman is a pastor of a church, then it just confuses those boundaries of submission and leadership. There are many outlets for women who have the gift of teaching or speaking (i.e. Sunday School). God knew that it was important to create a heirarchy within people (men over women, parents over children, government over citizens), and so it was in His infinite wisdom to establish a church with specific instructions for leadership. This doesn’t mean that women can’t learn, but just not to teach other men. She can discuss things with her own husband at home, as long as she respects him and defaults to him in a time when a decision must be made.

17 shots

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Yes, that’s how many injections I received in my face today. Seventeen. Today was my long-awaited dermatologist appointment, and she gave me a shot in each clump of acne breakouts. This was supposedly a steroid to reduce inflamation and prevent scarring. I also have to take some perscription medicine orally and topically. Let’s hope this does the trick. :-) I told my boss that my goal is to look nice without having to wear makeup.

So yes. Not a big fan of the seventeen shots, but if it works, then it will be worth it.

This weekend I went to Stone Mountain with my friends the Garrisons. It was so much fun! I haven’t climbed the mountain in several years, and I enjoyed it even though I was in flip-flops (oops) and so dehydrated that I practically fainted once we reached the top. Susan and I took the cable car down, for which I’m so thankful (thanks, Mr. Garrison! I think you saved my evening :-)).

Afterwards we watched the laser show and after shedding a few patriotic tears, I decided this will definitely be a yearly tradition for me, especially once I have kids. Fun, family entertainment without sitting in front of a video game! Imagine! (Susan, that was for you ;-))

On Sunday, Susan and I went to Joann’s looking for curtain fabric. We found some excellent fabric that matched my purple bedspread exactly – which is saying something, since my bedspread is an odd shade of purple. I think Susan finds me ridiculous because of my obsession with color. However, she managed to put up with me. We also came up with an excellent idea for the living room curtains. It’s hard to describe, but bascially there’s a base of navy blue with strips of another print fabric which will be attached with Velcro. Therefore, I can change out the print fabric to match the season or my particular mood. :-) We are also making a matching table. Yay! I’m so excited about this. I bought a generic blue and tan striped print, and a Christmas-themed print for the upcoming holiday for which I’m so excited. I can’t wait until they are done… Then I will take pictures. :-)

So excellent weekend, and good day today, too, despite the 17 shots I received. Tomorrow all the files are due for the biggest print run of the year! Yikes, hopefully that goes smoothly. Crazy busy it is at work.

Days till I see Paul: 11!
Days till I see Nichole, whose birthday is today – happy birthday to Nichole!!!: 13


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A man in his mid-fifties with three divorces under his belt is celebrating his 3 month anniversary with his latest girlfriend. They are talking with an elderly couple who are celebrating their 58 year anniversary. He asks the older man, “What’s the secret to such a long marriage?”

The older man’s response: “Picking the right woman the first time.”